DJ Neil Fox Cleared of all allegations , Perfect , He will bring a voice to many IMHO

[soulbug]

I watched the BBC news video of Neil reading out a written statement , He mentions at the end , he is now going for a drink ! I bet it will of been the best drink of his life , tonight he will be on top of the world , normality will of been resumed !

Good for him anyone that has ever been falsely accused will truly understand how he is feeling today , the emotion in his voice will ring true to all those that have ever been involved in proving ones innocence .

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35096615

Mr Fox, 54, from south-west London, had denied eight indecent assaults and two sexual assaults between 1988 and 2014, against women and girls as young as 14.

Westminster magistrates said the six alleged victims were believable but the bench "could not be sure that in the context it was a criminal offence".

The DJ and ex-Pop Idol judge said he had been "vindicated" and could not "wait to be broadcasting again".

In an emotional speech outside the court, he said the past 14 months had been "long, hard and stressful".

He thanked his friends, listeners and his family "who have stuck by me and lifted me up when I was falling down".

"This case has once again raised concerns about how high-profile cases such as this have been investigated by the CPS but this is not the time or the place to address these matters," he said.
Mr Fox, who has been off air since his arrest in September 2014, added that "a lot had been said and written" about him that would need to be "addressed and rectified".

[hello88]

yay!!!

I think the only thing that would bring a voice is if those false accusers we're taken to court for what they've done... but unlikely

but still, good news

[Eebygolly]

Good result indeed and just maybe the witch hunt is ending but I cannot understand how the judge can say that he believes the accusers but was not convinced anything illegal had gone on, one of the accusers was 14.

[TBG1]

Hey Soulbug - Good to hear from you.


I agree - I watched & listened with interest this afternoon/evening and can certainly identify with Mr Fox's emotional state. One can only hope that this again highlights the wastefulness of the "fingers crossed" approach that the Police & CPS often appear to take when charging cases where the only "evidence" is a statement(s)......A circumstance that would see almost any other criminal investigation closed without further action.


Don't know if anyone can answer this (RF?) but I noticed that this was heard in Magistrates' Court....why was it not referred up to Crown Court?



Best Wishes


TBG1

[Staystrong1]

Neil Fox

Good Result. Im sure anyone going through or out the other side will identify with Neil Fox. I could physically feel his pain and that of his wife. Their emotion was raw and real. Its been an awful harrowing experience for them. I think its been heard in Magistrate due to the actual charges, which dont have to be committed to,Crown.

Having followed the case I feel his words that its a flytrap,set by police is whats brought the whole case to court. CPS have a lot to answer for. It seems judges like to leave a slight tang to,the case when they come out with comments that he beleives accusers but doesnt think anything illegal went on That seems quite crass to me.

[Bene]

yay!!!

I think the only thing that would bring a voice is if those false accusers we're taken to court for what they've done... but unlikely

but still, good news

Dear hello,
How can you be so certain that they are false accusers ?
Just because someone had been acquitted that doesn't necessarily mean that they are innocent and the victims are lying.
And vice versa! Just because someone has been accused or convicted it doesn't always mean that they are truly guilty and did it.

I'm not saying that Neil fox is guilty because I don't know, I wasn't in the jury room. But for you to automatically assume that the women are false accusers is wrong. Unless there is evidence to prove that all 6 women are lying!! or they have admitted to lying.
Than it's really not right for you to instantly announce them as false accusers with out any prove!

[AmandaF]

Here we go again.
I just hope that people will begin to realize that high profile and celebrity cases are only the tip of the ice berg and that there are thousands of ordinary mortals stuck in this pergatory.

And once again there are unnecessary personal comments.

I'm sure of the much criticised police and CPS carried out thorough investigations there would be no need for any of these trials .

Proven false accusers should serve equivalent jail terms and lose everything too.

[Staystrong1]

Not guilty

He has been Found not guilty after his case has been heard and all facts of case heard not just an allegation and put in front of the press. Surely thats enough in a court of law Also I think you will find it was trial by judge. Yes there are miscarriages of justice but it seems quite quick to jump to that conclusion without knowing the facts

[Shah]

Thats great news for him he can have a great Xmas now not like most of us!

Was reading comments and I was just about to put the same thing Amanda ( your first sentence..lol )

[Aidy]

Having followed this closely (due to my own circumstances)..I am glad he got not guilty!
Now I saw someone post 'how do we know he didn't do it' etc?
We don't is the simple answer!
But having heard the evidence (or lack of it!) i came to my own conclusions!!

This is another fine example though of at what point does the law change on keeping anonymous until proven guilty??
So many famous people having their names dragged through the mud, then once cleared, they are left with a big old mess!!!

The whole set up needs changing imo

[hello88]

Dear hello,
How can you be so certain that they are false accusers ?
Just because someone had been acquitted that doesn't necessarily mean that they are innocent and the victims are lying.
And vice versa! Just because someone has been accused or convicted it doesn't always mean that they are truly guilty and did it.

I'm not saying that Neil fox is guilty because I don't know, I wasn't in the jury room. But for you to automatically assume that the women are false accusers is wrong. Unless there is evidence to prove that all 6 women are lying!! or they have admitted to lying.
Than it's really not right for you to instantly announce them as false accusers with out any prove!

Ahh sorry.... maybe i should re word it....

I think the only thing that would bring a voice is if false accusers we're taken to court for what they do..

My personal opinion is that changing how cps think and do things isn't going to help massively (it will only turn round with the accusers saying that things hadn't been investigated properly or something) but i think it needs to be made publicly aware that making a false allegation IS a crime and YOU WILL be punished for it, my OH's FA is totally unaware of the perverting the course of justice and i'm certain that if she was she would never of made the allegation..... hopefully next year she'll have a bit of a surprise!! (but according to what i read on here... doubt it )

[AmandaF]

Before this happened to us , I was always in the no smoke without fire camp.
Now, when I see how we have been , and continue to be judged, my answer is:
I wasn't there when a crime was committed because there was none, The jury, sheriff, fiscal anad anyone else does not know, me, my OH. the village we lived in , our accusers etc etc. All the jury were given. in our case , was whatever the prosecution wanted them to hear.

No reports which showed their despicable backgrounds, nothing.

So when I hear this "He could still be guilty " ****, I say stop talking like an FA and you might have some credence

[Rights Fighter]

The judge actually said that he believed the complainants. Fox admitted that there was some sort of "horseplay" or whatever he called it. He said that he never crossed the line. He never crossed the line in his view - is what I would say.

I was in show business for 16 years and believe me there was a lot of "horseplay" going on that was completely unwelcome. I lost work because I refused to "perform" for one club owner. An entertainments agent lost me a lots of work because I refused to "perform".

This was all part and parcel of "show business" and that was the bit I hated. I was often treated like a cheap slut and was criticised by some entertainments agents / club secretaries because I wouldn't put everything (as in tops to the naval and dresses to the waist). I lost work because of that as well. What they wanted was a singing stripper.

I had to suffer the experience of idiot men putting both hands on my chest saying "honk honk". Then they laughed thinking it was funny. It was not. Men still do that - not because they are perverts but because they are complete and utter twats. I would deal with that by stabbing a high heeled shoe into their foot or shouting "does your wife know you touch up other women?" if I knew she was there. It soon stopped. But then I lost work.

Having suffered various sorts of abuses as a child I decided that this was my choice - to perform as a stripper or not. I chose not to.

It was demeaning and I am sure the men who behaved like that truly believed they were entitled to do that they wanted to do. Whether it was illegal is another thing.

I would never walk into a police station and name those (that I can remember) who tried it on with me and accuse them of assault. If it was a criminal offence back then I probably still would not have done as it would have made me into more of a victim that I already was.

Fox admitted to doing certain things, and I have no doubt that he did. It just wasn't a criminal offence back then, despite being upsetting, humiliating and demeaning for the women he did it to, because he's basically admitted to it but brushed it off as "banter".

Six women had made allegations, and one claimed she was 14 when Mr Fox took her to an underground car park at Capital Radio in Euston, central London, and kissed her.


'Lots of banter'

The court had also heard from a woman who was 14 when Mr Fox allegedly kissed her and slid his hand up her skirt at a motor show in Bromley, south-east London, in July 1991.

The three adult complainants came into contact with Mr Fox through work at radio stations, spanning a period of 11 years.

One of the women alleged that Mr Fox had regularly touched her bottom, while another said he had approached her from behind and kissed her bare shoulders.

Whether he did kiss a 14 year old is anyone's guess. Could be that she came on to him being of a certain age where she thought she was a woman but still a child, and fancied her chances with a DJ. If he did, and if he knew she was 14 then he wrongly took advantage of her. It clearly should not have happened. However we don't know whether he did that and he knew she was 14. It could well be true as he's admitted to "banter" - although to the young ladies I doubt they saw it as that.

The rest of it seems to be the usual idiotic behaviour that came with being a "star". I am sure some female stars took advantage of unwilling young males too.

[AmandaF]

Dear hello,
How can you be so certain that they are false accusers ?
Just because someone had been acquitted that doesn't necessarily mean that they are innocent and the victims are lying.
And vice versa! Just because someone has been accused or convicted it doesn't always mean that they are truly guilty and did it.

I'm not saying that Neil fox is guilty because I don't know, I wasn't in the jury room. But for you to automatically assume that the women are false accusers is wrong. Unless there is evidence to prove that all 6 women are lying!! or they have admitted to lying.
Than it's really not right for you to instantly announce them as false accusers with out any prove!

And with that I think it's high time I took a step back. I'm far too despondent about my own situation right now I don't need to read holier than thou posts from the "other side".
I'll still be lurking in the background, waiting to post more bananas and for those I'm in touch with privately I'll continue.

I wish you all well on your journeys, whichever stage you are at. This place has been inspirational, but for now I'm bowing out.

[Lilyput]

Dont go quiet Amanda, i for one am fed up of the falsely accused being attacked on here. Comments from the other side nearly cost me a seven year relationship. There were witnesses police recommended NFA yet i was made to feel stupid for believing him. I stayed up all night quizzing him and now hes extremely hurt and feels he cant rely on me. Dont let people get inside your head huni xxx