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  • I've been accused and I'm falling apart

    Originally posted on old forum on Saturday, December 13, 2003

    Hi

    I don't really know what to write really, I'll start from the events of two nights ago.

    I was just about to go to my bed the other evening when I was called by a close friend. He told me that a girl whom I had met once was accusing me of rape and that she had made a complaint to the police.

    I initially thought it was someone?s idea of a sick wind up but he was serious. Nine months ago he had called me and invited me over to his place for a drink, I rarely see him so after a bit of convincing I drove over to see him, he lives in a nearby town so i would have had to stay at his place.

    When I got there he was there as was his girlfriend and his girlfriends friend and another couple of guys. We sat and watched videos and had a couple of drinks. I don't drink very often and I was tired so I only had a couple of bottles of beer.

    At the end of the evening the two other guys left, leaving me my friend his girlfriend and her friend. He and his girlfriend went into his room and her friend went though to his bedroom, I was briefly on my own and decided to go and join them. We all sat for a while talking and then sleeping arrangements we discussed - and it was agreed that the girls friend and I could share the other room. My friends girlfriend jokingly said remember and get a goodnight kiss, thinking it would be funny I lifted the friend into the other room and put her down on the bed, clothed, and I got into the bed too, I asked if I could give her a goodnight kiss and then we kissed, I don't remember but I think my hand wandered to her breast, then she said that she just wanted to go to sleep, so I took that she wasn't interested and said goodnight, she fell asleep quite quickly and I tried to sleep beside her. I'm not used to sleeping with anyone else in the same bed, so I couldn't sleep. I covered her with the quilt and lay down trying to drift off.

    I watched the sun come though the blinds and decided there was no further point in trying to sleep - so went though to the living room to have a cigarette and wait for my friend to wake up. When there was signs of life in his room I went though to speak to him and his girlfriend. Awake her friend came though and we all sat talking - I don't remember much but I'm sure her friend and I had our arms around each others back as we all talked. With the friend now up and out of the bed - I decided to try and sleep - which I did. When I awoke the only people left in the flat were myself and my friend.

    The next thing I heard about the friend was that she was seeing someone - I had asked after her as I thought she might like to go out sometime and my friend ask his girlfriend to find out if there was any interest. Thinking nothing of it I left it at that.

    The next mention of it was the phone call I got two nights ago.

    After my friend had called, I got a phone call from the girl I've been seeing for the last couple of weeks, she could tell instantly I was distressed so I told her what had been said. She had had a glass of wine after work so couldn't come over- so I went through and picked her up. this was about 2am.

    She couldn't believe it, and on the journey back to my place she told me she had also been a victim, not of an accusation but of rape. She told me that she wouldn't spent any time with me alone if I had even seemed capable of it and she was angry, when she had been raped she had to prove that she had and that girls that "cry rape" just cause more harm to the process of helping real victims.

    I never slept that night, I felt sick and couldn't stop worrying I still can't. I wanted to go straight to the police and find out what the hell was going on- I would have too but she told me to wait for the morning.

    When the morning came I called my friend, asked him exactly what had been said. He told me that he was to go to the police station to make a statement, I went through to his with my girlfriend and went with him to the police station.

    I won't go though what was said at the interview - most of it I have said already, but when the accusation was read out to me I couldn't stop myself bursting into tears. I had been accused of undressing her, inserting my fingers up her, then taking a knife and cutting her, then raping her. Even now the thought makes me sick to the stomach. The police released me without charge, I gave them all my contact numbers and took the officer that was in charge of the case's details. They told me that they wouldn't contact me until next week as they had other people to speak to and they hadn't been prepared for me coming in.

    My girlfriend has been so supportive, I've only told one family member - my big sister - she came round and I burst into tears as soon as she asked me what was wrong. I haven't spoken to my parents as I don't want them to worry.

    I took my girlfriend home and as soon as I got in and was alone I couldn't stop thinking about it. My best friend came round and stayed with me he's now gone home and I've never felt so alone. I haven't slept for two days, I haven't eaten. I don't know what to do now. I went online to see what others have done in my position but have found no comfort.

    What do I do now.... I work for the government - so I could lose my job, in turn my home. I also run a scout troop - which I will also lose. My friend has said that the girl is a heavy drinker and not the most stable of people and that this has to be a cry for help.

    I'm sorry this has been such a long post, and I'm sorry for the victims from both sides if it has reminded them of the past, but I don't know what to do... I'm 23 and I feel like I'm on my deathbed

    I've included my email address (kg010c0478@blueyonder.co.uk) , if anyone has any advice please please get in touch.

  • #2
    There don't seem to be that many support groups around on the Internet for people who've been falsely accused, but here's one where you'll hopefully be able to get some decent advice:
    http://www.a-team.org/false_accusation_list.html

    It's an email list. I think there are lawyers in it. They're based in America, I think, but they might be able to give you some good general advice. I hope so.
    My self-help articles on problems ranging from depression and phobias to marriage difficulties, to looking after children and teenagers, to addictions and destructive behaviours like anorexia, to bullying, to losing weight, to debating skills: http://broadcaster.org.uk/self-help
    And my article: How to Avoid Falling for Many False Claims or Fears of the Supernatural

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    • #3
      Hello,

      Can I first start by saying how sorry i am to here that you are in this situation. My sisters boyfriend has just gone through the same situation. Please Please Please do not take this lightly, this is what Steve did, thinking he would never be found guilty with no evidence but her say so. How wrong he was, today he was given 4years and 6 months, and will serve a minimum of 3. We are all gutted, 2 nights ago in prison he got set about by 6 men, they have now only just put him to a safe area for his on protection, his name will go on the sex offenders list. His life has been taken from him. The girl that accused him said that he had taken her clothes off whilst she was asleep, she is 16 stone!!!!! He is 12 stone! How is this possible? The law in rape cases is that you are guilty until proven otherwise! What a sham, they will just take a woman?s word for it. Do not take this lightly, do not think that it will go away, if you are charged, make sure you get best help and solicitors, Steve did not he took legal aid. We have today lodged an appeal, but this could take up to 2 years. His nightmare has just begun, my sister like your girlfriend was only with him 4 -5 months when she found out, but is standing by him, myself, husband and both parents are all backing him, we know that he has not done this, we have read the transcripts, he was badly represented. Don?t let this happen to you. Good Luck, i hope this does not go any further for your sake, but if you need any more advice please contact me on my email. (lisaocarr@aol.com)
      Take care Lisa Gallagher.

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      • #4
        I can only reinforce what my sister Lisa has said it is my boyfriend who is currently going through the nightmare of 4years 6 months in prison. There unfortunately is not many websites set up to help MEN who are falsely accused of rape by women who are disturbed for whatever reason.

        My understanding is that you have been released without charge pending further investigations so there is a possibility nothing may come of this but on the other hand it may. Like yourself my boyfriend chose not to tell me thinking he wouldn't have to because he was INNOCENT and he was going to get found not guilty. In hind sight there would have been so much more I could have done for him had I have known before hand but unfortunately I can't harp on what if's or maybe's. I will fight every step of the way to clear my boyfriends name. This woman has wrecked his life all because she saw pound signs rolling around her eyes. Please understand the stigma that is attached to rape: 1) YOU GET PUT ON THE SEX OFFENDER'S REGISTER 2) YOU ARE CLASSED IN THE SAME CATEGORY AS A KIDDY FIDDLER 3) EVERY TIME YOU MOVE HOUSE OR GO ON HOLIDAY YOU HAVE TO LET THE POLICE KNOW 4) IF YOU HAVE CHILDREN YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE ALONE WITH THEM 5) YOU LOOSE ANY POSSIBILITY OF HOLDING A JOB DOWN ESPECIALLY IF YOU WORK WITH CHILDREN 6) EVERY TIME SOMEONE IS RAPED IN YOUR AREA OR CHILDREN ARE MESSED WITH YOU GET PULLED IN AND CROSS EXAMINED.

        I could go on for ever & ever, my boyfriend was not made aware of these factors after being badly represented by a solicitor and barrister that we believe has never tried a rape case in his career.
        Please make sure if this does go any further you get appropriate solicitors and barristers. Don?t be scared to question their credibility. You don?t buy a car before you test drive it.
        My heart goes out to you. There is an organisation called FASO FALSE ALLEGATIONS SUPPORT ORGANISATION. TELEPHONE NUMBER 0870 241 6650
        It is a fantastic helpline for people in your situation. They have a register in which if your false allegation does come to something they will tell you of a specialist solicitor in your area who deals with cases like yours on a regular basis. There also there to listen & support you & point you in the right direction. They have been fantastic for me. Speak to a lady called Margaret or Denise. I truly hope that the investigation is halted at this point for your sake.
        Women like her just make a mockery of the justice system & also jeopardise women who have been raped.
        I have included my email (heidioca@yahoo.co.uk) if you need any more help please do not hesitate to contact me. My thoughts are with you.

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        • #5
          Hi Lisa, Heidi.

          well its been a week since I gave my statement and I've not heard anything at all, I'm going to call the officer who is dealing with the case tomorrow to see if there is any news. I'm feeling a lot calmer about the situation but I'm still taking it very seriously.

          I've told a few close friends and my girlfriend is still being very supportive, I have had quite a rough week or it - work has been taking my mind off it but I'm still not able to sleep unless I'm exhausted and I've not really been able to eat. I haven't told my parents yet - I don't want to worry them if I don't have to.

          I'll contact the police again and then I'll contact the number that you've suggested so if it does go any further than it has I will at least be prepared. Even if it does go no further -I don't think this be something I will ever forget.

          You both will be in my thoughts and I'll keep you updated if I can - Don't give up the fight for your brother and boyfriend.

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          • #6
            Hello

            I read your account of your nightmare with a great deal of sympathy. My partner has been falsely accused of rape, and he, like you has suffered enormously. He has tried to kill himself, is suffering from post traumatic stress syndrome, and has been prescribed anti-depressants in order to help him cope. The only thing that has made him want to continue with his life is our young child. Like you, we have told no-one, not even our immediate family. To be accused of such a hideous crime is not something one generally wishes to share.

            The only thing that keeps us going is the knowledge that he is innocent. He is a good, kind generous man, and a fantastic father. I am consumed with fury at the woman who has so casually turned our lives upside down. My partner could lose his job, and like you, in turn we could lose our home. Should my partner be convicted, we may even lose our child. All this for an attention seeking, insecure liar who couldn't accept that he didn't want to sleep with him.

            Please don't feel alone, you are not alone. Your girlfriend is right that false accusations such as these deter real victims from coming forward.

            You have my sincerest sympathy, and my thoughts are with you. Remember that you have the truth on your side. seek all the support you can. don't give up. you are not the only one.

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            • #7
              Originally posted Saturday, December 20, 2003

              Hi

              Well I got a phone call this evening from the Detective constable who was investigating the case...

              She told me not to worry, that they had talked further to the girl and she has retacted most of her statement and there are now a lot of inconstancies in her story, she said that she needs to write up a report for the proculator fiscal but its just procedure, she told me off the record that the girl is ill and needs help..

              I still feel tense about the whole situation... and a little bit on the trumatised side... I spoke to my friend and he said that they hadn't even spoken to the other two witnesses yet.. and from what the DC had said - it looks like they won't need to. My friend wants me to be vindictive and make an example out of her by taking her to court for what she has put me though.. but I just want it over and behind me...

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              • #8
                I am really pleased for you, it just goes to show how women can make false accusations & turn your world upside down just because they are sick themselves. It really is a poor show for the true victims of rape out there who have been traumatised by the true accounts that have happened to them.
                You will feel traumatised by the whole thing for a while I imagine. I personally wouldn't follow a vendetta against this woman. Get some kind of written letter from the police to say all investigations are complete and no charges will be brought. I imagine the police will repremand her for wasting of police time. You could always approach a solicitor and get advice to maybe having a letter sent to her? It all depends on how you would like to deal with it. Don't be pressured in to anything you don't want to.
                I only wish my boyfriend was in the same situation. Our leave for appeal has been lodged now so we have now taken on a new solicitors firm. All's we can do is pray, hope for the best, and take what comes in our stride. I will fight till the bitter end and for My boyfriend, myself, and his family once the conviction is overturned we will then hope for prosecution of the accuser.
                Again my thoughts are with you it's great news for you and your close friends you have confided in. I hope you all have a fantastic christmas & New Year.

                Take Care

                Heidi

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                • #9
                  Glad that things are working out OK in the end.

                  Never mind the police "reprimanding her for wasting police time" or you "taking her to Court" she should be prosecuted by the proper authorities for attempting to pervert the course of justice - likely sentence around 12-18 months imprisonment.

                  We all need protecting from this person but that will only happen if you push for it.

                  The view expressed by the DC that she is merely ill and needs help is just pure pure bull!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Michael@Jul 16 2004, 10:40 PM
                    Never mind the police "reprimanding her for wasting police time" or you "taking her to Court" she should be prosecuted by the proper authorities for attempting to pervert the course of justice - likely sentence around 12-18 months imprisonment.
                    Hello Michael,
                    I totally agree with what you say in prosecuting these women who make a sham of the British justice system. I know that when my partner's conviction is overturned, that will be the route we will take. False allegations of women accusing men have to be stopped for the women who do suffer at the hands of rapists.

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                    • #11
                      I don't know what to do either, a few days ago my boyfriend was accused of rape which I found unbelievable because he did not seem the type.
                      What I can understand happened on that night is that he got completely drunk with his friends whilst out at a club where a woman approached him introducing herself and telling she had no knickers on. She was completely drunk as well and was letting people touch her etc, she asked him if they could go somewhere private so they could be alone and she agreed to leave with him. He took her back to his place where she asked him to get her some cigarettes, which he did reluctantly. When he came back she was naked and she asked him if he had any condoms and so to put one on in which he did, they started having sex and she then said his penis was too big so they stopped, she then put on her clothes and asked for a cab so he rang her one and she left. About two hours later, the woman came back later with her boyfriend and the police shouting that my boyfriend had raped her, is this classed as rape even though she was the one up for all the activities of that night? I just do not know what to do or think!

                      My email is octoberadewumi@msn.com

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by sarah@Jul 16 2004, 10:44 PM
                        I don?t know what to do either, a few days ago my boyfriend was accused of rape which I found unbelievable because he did not seem the type.
                        Hi Sarah,
                        I'm really sorry to hear about what's happened to you and your boyfriend. Unfortunately there are times that men do stray outside of there own relationship for one reason or another which can be very hurtful for you. This does not mean that your boyfriend has committed rape though so you have to find out the full story before you make a judgement. There are women who are genuinely raped in those kind of circumstances but unfortunately there are some that aren't and when they do decide to have sex with someone they hardly know half way through they regret it. Its what?s called Post coital regret. Unfortunately it is very difficult for the man to prove otherwise and is down to proving whether she consented or not. Has this woman gone to the police? Reported it in any way? Has your boyfriend been charged or interviewed? I strongly suggest if he has that you get the other men as witnesses who she was also being provocative with. Please don?t take this charge lightly as if found guilty of such an offence your boyfriend will be put on the sex offenders register for the rest of his life. If he has been charged or arrested and released pending further enquiries post another mail and I will give you a support group to contact for help. I hope all is well and be strong for each other. It?s hard but I speak from experience.

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