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    Hi everyone, I am a new member here [46yr old male].

    I came across this excellent forum whilst looking for help and information regarding the traumatic event which occurred in my & family life a few weeks ago. I have read a few posts and understand that many people are or have been going through similar difficult situations which have had a devastating impact on their lives. Similarly, I feel pretty much being cut adrift and alone even from my closest friends as I feel very humiliated and ashamed of the criminal allegation that I am facing to even talk about it. I also feel that my life is in the hands of the police and being left totally in the dark about the well-being of my children and what can happen about the whole case. I’ll try to provide here a brief resume of the allegation without going into confidential areas and I would very much appreciate any info [even negative, better than nothing like at the moment].

    I and my ex lived together for over 20yrs. We have 2 children together who are 17 & 12yrs old respectively. We separated around 3yrs ago due to us drifting apart mainly due to me working full time whilst my partner stayed at home with the children since the birth of our first daughter. The separation was at first traumatic and acrimonious due to a third party involved who was in contact through social media sites. My ex kept custody of the children though my eldest daughter stayed with me at times. Over the years post-separation, I maintained regular visits to my ex’s house mainly helping out with DIY jobs and even going for days out. They also visited my house over the weekends. We both stayed single since the separation. These visits became more frequent recently with me spending a few hours on a daily basis which consisted of socialising with my whole family and walking ‘our’ pet dog regularly.

    On Saturday 12th September 2015, I returned home late in the evening after staying at a work’s friend’s house the night before. I noticed an answer phone message from the Police from the area where my ex-partner and children lives. I was already a bit worried as there was no response to the few texts I sent over the days before then. My last visit was on the Monday 7th September 2015. I rang my ex and my eldest daughter but again there was no answer. So in a bit of panic and being worried, I drove to my ex’s house but I was surprised to notice that they were in-doors but refused to answer the door. Whilst I was sitting in my car, a police van turned up and after the police officers talked to my ex, I was informed of the harrowing fact that I was being arrested for allegation of sexual assault on my youngest daughter [12yrs old]. I still have not got over this huge shock since that day. I denied that allegation whilst they were arresting me but they kept me in a police station cell overnight and I was interviewed by an officer from the Public Protection department the next day. I was cautioned and bailed to return on the 11/10/2015.

    I was informed by the police that they left messages for me to get in touch to come in for an interview under caution originally after the allegation was made by my ex on the Friday 11/09/2015 but because I attended their house that night [as I was not aware of any allegation then], I got myself arrested instead. I was informed of the nature of the allegation whilst a duty solicitor was provided to me, which was that I touched my daughter’s breast on the Monday 7th September 2015 [which was on my last visit to their house] whilst sitting on the couch and after being questioned by the police, my daughter apparently stated that I put my hands inside her top on another two occasions whilst we were watching TV in my house.

    This is naturally a horrendous accusation which I do not think that I’ll ever come to terms with. I have completely denied the allegation and maintained that I have never sexually touched my daughter in any way and just cannot understand this whole nightmare. I mentioned in my audio-taped interview that I was shocked to discover that my youngest daughter self-harmed a couple of weeks before the day of that allegation was made. She had in fact slashed her arms and legs after a disagreement with her mother which I noticed when I turned up at their house. I was shocked and appalled by that with my eldest daughter also telling me that she has also done that before to seek attention. I have always been very close to both my daughters and admitted during my interview that I was upset following the self-harming episode and has been tactile, stroking especially where she cut herself but never in a sexual way. I stated that I stroke her face, shoulders and neck areas but I did not sexually molest or fondle her breasts. I have always been affectionate as a father but never harmed any of my daughters whether physically, emotionally or sexually.

    I apologise for rambling on but I am probably trying to find explanations for the terrible nature of the allegation. Again, the primary allegation is that I apparently fondled my youngest daughter’s breast whilst sitting on the couch in between my two daughters. My ex-partner stated that she gave me a “look” at that time and that I then withdrew my hand. I confirmed to the police that I did notice her looking at me but both of us were talking about important issues affecting my daughter in her early teenage years and we carried on talking afterwards. I honestly never thought anything of it at the time. After I left that night, my ex also rang me to ask for help about completing a college bursary form for my eldest daughter, we talked normally and she never mentioned a hint of concern at that time. However, in her statement, my ex talked about her leaving the house prematurely [which she did not] and that she was “angry” with me.

    I also have photos and a video on my phone of my two daughters whilst walking the dog and me play-fight [as we always do], laughing about and hugging that same evening. I left that night giving my daughters a hug as always and they were smiling and seemingly happy.

    Again I am sorry for rambling on & on, probably due to the fact that I do not know what else to do. As I work in a health setting, social services were notified and I have also been suspended from all duties. My main concern is though I remain totally distraught that my daughter of 12yrs old feels that I have hurt her in such a way and I have not been able to see, hear or read about her and my eldest one since my bail conditions prohibit me to contact them in anyway.

    The day before my bail date, the police rang me to say that the matter is with CPS who’s yet to make a decision. I was notified that I was being re-bailed until the 18/11/2015, which will be an absolute eternity for me. All I have left at the moment is a million of mental thoughts and they are all very negative. I understand and appreciate that there are many others in worse predicament than myself but not knowing anything about your children when you have been seeing them practically every day since they were born is pure torture. Due to the nature of the allegation what has obviously been done cannot be undone and it is a bit of a grieving process I am going through right now as I feel I have lost my children and that I will always be cast as an evil person/paedophile.

    Thanks for reading and any feedback from people suffering similar difficult circumstances or anyone will be greatly appreciated.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Purgatory View Post
    Hi everyone, I am a new member here [46yr old male].

    I came across this excellent forum whilst looking for help and information regarding the traumatic event which occurred in my & family life a few weeks ago. I have read a few posts and understand that many people are or have been going through similar difficult situations which have had a devastating impact on their lives. Similarly, I feel pretty much being cut adrift and alone even from my closest friends as I feel very humiliated and ashamed of the criminal allegation that I am facing to even talk about it. I also feel that my life is in the hands of the police and being left totally in the dark about the well-being of my children and what can happen about the whole case. I’ll try to provide here a brief resume of the allegation without going into confidential areas and I would very much appreciate any info [even negative, better than nothing like at the moment].

    I and my ex lived together for over 20yrs. We have 2 children together who are 17 & 12yrs old respectively. We separated around 3yrs ago due to us drifting apart mainly due to me working full time whilst my partner stayed at home with the children since the birth of our first daughter. The separation was at first traumatic and acrimonious due to a third party involved who was in contact through social media sites. My ex kept custody of the children though my eldest daughter stayed with me at times. Over the years post-separation, I maintained regular visits to my ex’s house mainly helping out with DIY jobs and even going for days out. They also visited my house over the weekends. We both stayed single since the separation. These visits became more frequent recently with me spending a few hours on a daily basis which consisted of socialising with my whole family and walking ‘our’ pet dog regularly.

    On Saturday 12th September 2015, I returned home late in the evening after staying at a work’s friend’s house the night before. I noticed an answer phone message from the Police from the area where my ex-partner and children lives. I was already a bit worried as there was no response to the few texts I sent over the days before then. My last visit was on the Monday 7th September 2015. I rang my ex and my eldest daughter but again there was no answer. So in a bit of panic and being worried, I drove to my ex’s house but I was surprised to notice that they were in-doors but refused to answer the door. Whilst I was sitting in my car, a police van turned up and after the police officers talked to my ex, I was informed of the harrowing fact that I was being arrested for allegation of sexual assault on my youngest daughter [12yrs old]. I still have not got over this huge shock since that day. I denied that allegation whilst they were arresting me but they kept me in a police station cell overnight and I was interviewed by an officer from the Public Protection department the next day. I was cautioned and bailed to return on the 11/10/2015.

    I was informed by the police that they left messages for me to get in touch to come in for an interview under caution originally after the allegation was made by my ex on the Friday 11/09/2015 but because I attended their house that night [as I was not aware of any allegation then], I got myself arrested instead. I was informed of the nature of the allegation whilst a duty solicitor was provided to me, which was that I touched my daughter’s breast on the Monday 7th September 2015 [which was on my last visit to their house] whilst sitting on the couch and after being questioned by the police, my daughter apparently stated that I put my hands inside her top on another two occasions whilst we were watching TV in my house.

    This is naturally a horrendous accusation which I do not think that I’ll ever come to terms with. I have completely denied the allegation and maintained that I have never sexually touched my daughter in any way and just cannot understand this whole nightmare. I mentioned in my audio-taped interview that I was shocked to discover that my youngest daughter self-harmed a couple of weeks before the day of that allegation was made. She had in fact slashed her arms and legs after a disagreement with her mother which I noticed when I turned up at their house. I was shocked and appalled by that with my eldest daughter also telling me that she has also done that before to seek attention. I have always been very close to both my daughters and admitted during my interview that I was upset following the self-harming episode and has been tactile, stroking especially where she cut herself but never in a sexual way. I stated that I stroke her face, shoulders and neck areas but I did not sexually molest or fondle her breasts. I have always been affectionate as a father but never harmed any of my daughters whether physically, emotionally or sexually.

    I apologise for rambling on but I am probably trying to find explanations for the terrible nature of the allegation. Again, the primary allegation is that I apparently fondled my youngest daughter’s breast whilst sitting on the couch in between my two daughters. My ex-partner stated that she gave me a “look” at that time and that I then withdrew my hand. I confirmed to the police that I did notice her looking at me but both of us were talking about important issues affecting my daughter in her early teenage years and we carried on talking afterwards. I honestly never thought anything of it at the time. After I left that night, my ex also rang me to ask for help about completing a college bursary form for my eldest daughter, we talked normally and she never mentioned a hint of concern at that time. However, in her statement, my ex talked about her leaving the house prematurely [which she did not] and that she was “angry” with me.

    I also have photos and a video on my phone of my two daughters whilst walking the dog and me play-fight [as we always do], laughing about and hugging that same evening. I left that night giving my daughters a hug as always and they were smiling and seemingly happy.

    Again I am sorry for rambling on & on, probably due to the fact that I do not know what else to do. As I work in a health setting, social services were notified and I have also been suspended from all duties. My main concern is though I remain totally distraught that my daughter of 12yrs old feels that I have hurt her in such a way and I have not been able to see, hear or read about her and my eldest one since my bail conditions prohibit me to contact them in anyway.

    The day before my bail date, the police rang me to say that the matter is with CPS who’s yet to make a decision. I was notified that I was being re-bailed until the 18/11/2015, which will be an absolute eternity for me. All I have left at the moment is a million of mental thoughts and they are all very negative. I understand and appreciate that there are many others in worse predicament than myself but not knowing anything about your children when you have been seeing them practically every day since they were born is pure torture. Due to the nature of the allegation what has obviously been done cannot be undone and it is a bit of a grieving process I am going through right now as I feel I have lost my children and that I will always be cast as an evil person/paedophile.

    Thanks for reading and any feedback from people suffering similar difficult circumstances or anyone will be greatly appreciated.
    Welcome to the forum, I sorry to read About your terrible experience. I myself am currently going through being falsely accused of multiple Rape and assault allegations made by my wife.

    I'm just your average 26 yr old I can only offer advice/support as a consequence of my own terrible traumatic and tormenting experience

    Don't expect this ordeal to come to a quick conclusion, I have been on conditional police bail for over 8 months. So it may sound upfront but prepare your mind for the long haul. The police these days are pretty lame to say the least, they are understaffed under budgeted and in some cases incompetent. Not to mention the Cps.

    Write down anything you can remember that will support your case such as discrepancies in the accusers story. Look for weaknesses in there lies.

    Keep your mind motivated I found lifting weights jogging and cycling help me releave stress all be it temporary. Be very careful how much info you disclose on here too.

    Be very wary of your "circle" such friends and even family. Careful who you trust... I found that the person you think that is helping you is often the person behind the 'trigger'

    In regards to the children, my children are younger however I have been denied all type of contact and have not had any contact for over 8 months. So as painful as it is you will unfortunately have to take not seeing your kids on the chin.

    You will feel low,reluctant to do anything,you will feel depressed, tired mentally, but you have to snap out of that mode.

    You have to say to yourself "I'm a loving father and I'm totally innocent and I will fight for my children"

    I would advise to never approach or contact the accuser or others involved.... This could look like witness intimation...etc its really not worth.

    Keep strong there are others on this forum that are very supportive and can offer more advice. I hope you stay strong

    And never give up....all those emotions your feeling....all that pain turn it into postive energy postive power and you will get through this.

    Regards

    Arsenal12
    Turn the pain into power. ::

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    • #3
      Allegation of sexual assault

      Thanks Arsenal12.

      I find it astonishing that you are on police bail for 8 months. I'm already hitting rock bottom as it is right now, can't imagine all that time under the cosh so to speak. My heartfelt sympathies goes out to you and hope that you do have some very good news in your case.

      You make some very good points and I was also wary about revealing too much info on here as I will probably need all the legal assistance needed if & when the case proceeds to court. But as you said, the low feeling makes you to just want a release of some sort as I just have not been able to have any support from anyone [I've even kept away from my closest 2 friends who knows I've been suspended from work for an allegation of assault, that's all].

      Some other points also similarly resonate with me like the constant mental battle of depression and then trying to feel positive anyhow. I have been trying to picture that I'm in a very dark tunnel right now and its up to me to fight my way towards the light at the end to gee myself up a bit. But it is very difficult on a daily basis and the feeling of running away from it all keeps coming back unfortunately. And yes physical exercises have been beneficial up to now for me also.

      I have just about kept myself away from making any form of contact with my kids as I know they will come down heavily on me if I do. Thank you again

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Purgatory View Post
        Thanks Arsenal12.

        I find it astonishing that you are on police bail for 8 months. I'm already hitting rock bottom as it is right now, can't imagine all that time under the cosh so to speak. My heartfelt sympathies goes out to you and hope that you do have some very good news in your case.

        You make some very good points and I was also wary about revealing too much info on here as I will probably need all the legal assistance needed if & when the case proceeds to court. But as you said, the low feeling makes you to just want a release of some sort as I just have not been able to have any support from anyone [I've even kept away from my closest 2 friends who knows I've been suspended from work for an allegation of assault, that's all].

        Some other points also similarly resonate with me like the constant mental battle of depression and then trying to feel positive anyhow. I have been trying to picture that I'm in a very dark tunnel right now and its up to me to fight my way towards the light at the end to gee myself up a bit. But it is very difficult on a daily basis and the feeling of running away from it all keeps coming back unfortunately. And yes physical exercises have been beneficial up to now for me also.

        I have just about kept myself away from making any form of contact with my kids as I know they will come down heavily on me if I do. Thank you again

        Your welcome Purgatory,

        Yes its always best to be wary not to open up yourself to much in such a open public domain/forum. As you can never be sure who is reading....

        Yes 8 months....but some people on here have had longer bail than this.

        It's sad to think that in modern day Britain regarded as a leading country for legislation and equality....there are major flaws in the criminal justice system.

        Yes people who are actual criminals and commit those terrible crimes I,e Rape murder assault should be punished and in some extreme cases a "longer bail "perhaps may be needed.

        But this is clearly not the case in most cases because when the accuser makes a clearly false " flawed" " malicious" allegation, the victims of being falsely accused...and let me emphasise WE ARE VICTIMS TOO....are humiliated, degraded, our reputations tarnished for ever, family lost jobs lost, huge financial loss,home lost.etc and meanwhile the "False" accuser is protected manipulated, entitled to every support/financial benefit under the sun.

        This law states "innocent until proven guilty" what a load of ********.....to us victims of being falsely accused it feels like the other way round.

        The False accuser is in most cases nearly always believed right away, and also is manipulated by those around them manipulation can occur from authorities as well family of the False accuser.so what often happens the accuser actually starts to believe that what they are alleging is true...because they have been dripfed by manipulated people

        And this brings me onto another flaw...coming from the point of view of being a father.....father's are instantly stopped having contact with the children....everybody ie the government, agency's etc always go on about fairness,equal pay,equal rights for men and women, equal rights for Gay couples,equal housing rights....etc

        Of course the above should and is equal.....but how can the rights that a father has against a mother be equal!!!!!

        Father's for justice state there are more rights and "legislation protecting ANIMALS!! Than there is father's.

        But we are told NO CONTACT full stop. We do not get any Legal aid for family law unless we have been a victim of domestic abuse.

        The whole system is shambolic to say the least.

        I personally think the only way we would see postive change in law and legislation is if some of the so called Priministers/ back benchers(MP's) and people with authority directly experience what we all have experienced

        Another point how many high profile mega rich people with endless money do anything to support change in length of bail time legislation. Or rights for father's .... David Beckham's...Elton john, these pop bands...they all support charities but they never do anything to support and promote these flaws in criminal justice system. Why? Because they are cowards and they do not want to get involved.

        For example Elton John supports Gay equal rights and he has done tremendous work promoting fairness and equality you can do nothing but praise him.

        But ask yourself why is he doing what he is doing????.....the answer simple.....because he has directly experienced negativty and has gone through emotional hardship.and he wants to see change around the world supporting Gay rights etc.

        .father's should have equal rights to mothers no question....

        Take Ched Evans name me on high profile or someone else in the public eye that has supported him...answer noone. But hopefully if he acquitted or proven innocent he automatically have "friends again who are in the public domain" And the flaw in the criminal justice system will be swept back under the carpet.

        For example last week the sad story about the couple whose child was taken away and adopted because of huge falings in the criminal justice system!!!! A week on it is swept back under the carpet.

        But back to the point in hand....keep your chin up and I also found the my legal aid lawyer was good but the only person that is gona work tirelessly for you is yourself.... Write down everything you can remember and prepare your mind. I also found contacting the Cps direct helpful as they can inform you direct about whether your case is being looked at.

        Look on there website and email them...depending what region you are on.

        Keep strong

        Regards Arsenal12
        Turn the pain into power. ::

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Purgatory View Post
          I was informed of the nature of the allegation whilst a duty solicitor was provided to me, which was that I touched my daughter’s breast on the Monday 7th September 2015 [which was on my last visit to their house] whilst sitting on the couch and after being questioned by the police, my daughter apparently stated that I put my hands inside her top on another two occasions whilst we were watching TV in my house.

          Again, the primary allegation is that I apparently fondled my youngest daughter’s breast whilst sitting on the couch in between my two daughters. My ex-partner stated that she gave me a “look” at that time and that I then withdrew my hand.

          Hi and welcome to the forum,

          I appreciate that your greatest concern is 'why' the allegation was made and here I don't really have an answer (except to reiterate that the mind of a teenage girl is uncharted territory )

          However in this instance, whilst the police are currently obliged to believe the 'victim' and investigate every case thoroughly, the fact that the 'assault' occurred in the presence of your ex and your other daughter suggests that it was at most accidental contact.

          I suspect that the OIC made exactly this point in her interview hence the further allegation (where presumably you were alone with her?)

          A further consideration is that the police look for a 'pattern' of offending. Almost certainly your eldest daughter will have been asked if anything occurred with her and her negative reply will be a positive.
          'What doesn't kill you makes you stronger'

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          • #6
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            Purgatory - As ever, a sorrowful 'Welcome' to the forum. It's a difficult decision to make - to post on a forum full of strangers - but you should see that it was a good decision because you will get some real-life information and advice that only those that have been or are going through something similar can give.

            Yours is a very sad story - particularly as you appear to be a close family, despite the separation from your partner.

            I know from my own (ongoing) experience that what you desperately want is an answer from someone to the question, "What do you think?". For me to answer that question is generally ill-advised because what I think and what the authorities think may (and likely will) differ greatly and may only serve to give false hope. However, despite the aforementioned "risk", I will give you my initial observations in the hope that they are helpful at least in a small way:

            As you can appreciate, it's difficult to give a reasoned view on someone else's situation but, from what you have posted my initial thought was that from what you have said about your ex-partner's involvement, it appears to me that she is "going along" with this rather than "driving" it. If so, I take that as a good sign because I imagine that she is in a prime position to make this extremely difficult for you (by adding to the false statements) if she so wished. To me, if your young daughter says something to you - whether you see it the same way or not - you will naturally try to help her....and this is what I believe your ex-partner is doing, regardless of her own views on the accusation's credibility. Crucially, whilst supporting your daughter's account to a point, it appears that she isn't trying to add any more "weight" to the accusations.

            The other thing that occurs to me is that as your daughter has previously engaged in self-harm, she must be fighting some kind of internal battle which manifests itself in many (seemingly unusual) ways - not least self-harm, but also "lashing out" at those closest to them. Even the most amicable of separations can have a profound effect on children - especially younger children - and the false accusation(s) may be your daughter's "next" cry for help......It's certainly an "easy" way to get "important people" to take notice of you.

            Worryingly, whilst people are more aware of the effectiveness of using false accusations as a way of "getting at someone", I don't think they realise that, these days, what's been done cannot be undone - What I mean by that is that I'm convinced that some of those who are only 'attention-seeking' by making false accusations clearly don't realise (a) How seriously such accusations will be taken, (b) How serious the consequences of a "successful" false-accusation are to the accused and (c) That if or when they actually do realise both (a) and (b) the authorities will not drop the action simply because the accuser no longer wishes to proceed.

            My final point to you is what I personally think is the most important one - You must confide in someone. Don't go through this alone. I know only too well how these false accusations can be embarrassing to disclose to friends but, it is important that you have at least one person who can listen to you when you're down or try and help you remain positive.

            I hope that you get a swift and positive conclusion to this and I do encourage you to keep posting as you will find the members here very helpful and in turn, you will also find comfort in being helpful to others yourself.


            Once again, a sorrowful welcome to you.

            TBG1

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Arsenal12 View Post
              Your welcome Purgatory,

              Yes its always best to be wary not to open up yourself to much in such a open public domain/forum. As you can never be sure who is reading....

              Yes 8 months....but some people on here have had longer bail than this.

              It's sad to think that in modern day Britain regarded as a leading country for legislation and equality....there are major flaws in the criminal justice system.

              Yes people who are actual criminals and commit those terrible crimes I,e Rape murder assault should be punished and in some extreme cases a "longer bail "perhaps may be needed.

              But this is clearly not the case in most cases because when the accuser makes a clearly false " flawed" " malicious" allegation, the victims of being falsely accused...and let me emphasise WE ARE VICTIMS TOO....are humiliated, degraded, our reputations tarnished for ever, family lost jobs lost, huge financial loss,home lost.etc and meanwhile the "False" accuser is protected manipulated, entitled to every support/financial benefit under the sun.

              This law states "innocent until proven guilty" what a load of ********.....to us victims of being falsely accused it feels like the other way round.

              The False accuser is in most cases nearly always believed right away, and also is manipulated by those around them manipulation can occur from authorities as well family of the False accuser.so what often happens the accuser actually starts to believe that what they are alleging is true...because they have been dripfed by manipulated people

              And this brings me onto another flaw...coming from the point of view of being a father.....father's are instantly stopped having contact with the children....everybody ie the government, agency's etc always go on about fairness,equal pay,equal rights for men and women, equal rights for Gay couples,equal housing rights....etc

              Of course the above should and is equal.....but how can the rights that a father has against a mother be equal!!!!!

              Father's for justice state there are more rights and "legislation protecting ANIMALS!! Than there is father's.

              But we are told NO CONTACT full stop. We do not get any Legal aid for family law unless we have been a victim of domestic abuse.

              The whole system is shambolic to say the least.

              I personally think the only way we would see postive change in law and legislation is if some of the so called Priministers/ back benchers(MP's) and people with authority directly experience what we all have experienced

              Another point how many high profile mega rich people with endless money do anything to support change in length of bail time legislation. Or rights for father's .... David Beckham's...Elton john, these pop bands...they all support charities but they never do anything to support and promote these flaws in criminal justice system. Why? Because they are cowards and they do not want to get involved.

              For example Elton John supports Gay equal rights and he has done tremendous work promoting fairness and equality you can do nothing but praise him.

              But ask yourself why is he doing what he is doing????.....the answer simple.....because he has directly experienced negativty and has gone through emotional hardship.and he wants to see change around the world supporting Gay rights etc.

              .father's should have equal rights to mothers no question....

              Take Ched Evans name me on high profile or someone else in the public eye that has supported him...answer noone. But hopefully if he acquitted or proven innocent he automatically have "friends again who are in the public domain" And the flaw in the criminal justice system will be swept back under the carpet.

              For example last week the sad story about the couple whose child was taken away and adopted because of huge falings in the criminal justice system!!!! A week on it is swept back under the carpet.

              But back to the point in hand....keep your chin up and I also found the my legal aid lawyer was good but the only person that is gona work tirelessly for you is yourself.... Write down everything you can remember and prepare your mind. I also found contacting the Cps direct helpful as they can inform you direct about whether your case is being looked at.

              Look on there website and email them...depending what region you are on.

              Keep strong

              Regards Arsenal12
              Hi Arsenal12,

              Thanks for all the relevant points you have raised in your comments. Sorry for not getting back sooner, found it a bit tough going today.

              Sorry also for not asking about your particular circumstances and I will try to review previous comments and post any positive feedback I may have. I was wondering whether you suspected anything that your wife may do something awful like that or whether it came out of the blue like a bit in my case?

              Also you mention the high profile C.Evans case and it's very interesting to note that he has now won an appeal against that initial verdict it seems, long after the horse has bolted, career destroyed etc. It will rancour with me here as I'll probably also will need to find out a new career in the near future as I can't see my employer taking me back on even if the CPS don't proceed further.

              I will attempt to get in touch with the CPS to find out any progression in the case.

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              • #8
                Oh hell do we need change!!

                I can't comment about rights for fathers-as a female that's slightly out of my remit.
                But the devastation of false accusations is life changing, life lasting.

                I am extremely disappointed that MPs like Nigel Evans have not taken up the cause of the falsely accused.

                Maybe celebs think it only happens to them!

                WE need to get our plight into the public domain. Somehow
                They tried to bury us- they didn't know we were seeds

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Casehardened View Post
                  Hi and welcome to the forum,

                  I appreciate that your greatest concern is 'why' the allegation was made and here I don't really have an answer (except to reiterate that the mind of a teenage girl is uncharted territory )

                  However in this instance, whilst the police are currently obliged to believe the 'victim' and investigate every case thoroughly, the fact that the 'assault' occurred in the presence of your ex and your other daughter suggests that it was at most accidental contact.

                  I suspect that the OIC made exactly this point in her interview hence the further allegation (where presumably you were alone with her?)

                  A further consideration is that the police look for a 'pattern' of offending. Almost certainly your eldest daughter will have been asked if anything occurred with her and her negative reply will be a positive.
                  Thank you Casehardened. Yes, I don't understand 'why' my ex didn't confront or challenge me or at least talk to me first instead of going straight to the police. We have been talking about parenthood, teenage, mood, health issues facing both our daughters all the time, hence the shock of being hit with the allegation from the police without having the chance to air my side so to speak.

                  The "further allegation" is just blatant fabrication in my eyes. I am [well, was] close to both my daughters but my youngest has always been attached to her mother more and when younger would never leave her side. I have practically never been alone with her except when walking the dog or going shopping or when in public. The instances I was informed was when we were watching TV in my house but those times are always with my ex being there though she will be spending times on the computer or the kitchen.

                  There are no allegations from my eldest daughter who has spent time with me and stayed at my house at times away from her mother after the break-up.

                  Thanks for your comment, much appreciated.

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                  • #10
                    Thanks very much TBG1. I appreciate and understand that no one knows the 'answer' and I [and my ex/daughter also] are very much entirely in the authorities lap as to the eventual outcome. It's just that it is so hard being alone and in the dark about everything. I don't hear anything from my solicitor either which I referred the case to after doing a quick search online.

                    Your first point about my ex-partner "going along" instead of being the driving force is interesting as I thought it was the other way round. Firstly, my daughter is very assertive with me and if I had done anything wrong like say being bad tempered about something innocuous, she would tell me off or 'advise' on the spot. That particular day of the allegation, my ex was sitting facing us and she said in her statement she gave me a "look" when I was sitting with my daughter and I was stroking her [though not her breast and sexually as alleged]. Though my ex rang me that same night to discuss another matter with my eldest daughter, I personally believe that she went back to my youngest to ask or discuss about anything she may have seen. And it all steamrolled from there really. That's my take on it but as I said, I'm totally in the dark and I can't be certain of anything. The further allegation about me touching my daughter similarly on another two occasions in the [distant past?] and her apparently telling me off is also something I cannot understand. I'm thinking whether that kind of got manufactured? when she talked with her mum. But of course, I'm always thinking the worse and I could be wrong.

                    I'm in a very trying situation which is totally new as at 46yrs old, I never had any traffic offence history never mind criminal. I have been very close emotionally to my youngest daughter, so it's especially hard. I agree with you about having someone I trust to talk to and I'm trying to summon enough strength to go and have a coffee with my two best mates. It's certainly not healthy in the slightest for me the way I'm going at the moment.

                    Thanks again for your helpful comment, TBG1

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                    • #11
                      I think just like depression or mental illness in general, 'we' or people being accused of sexual offences are very much taboo despite the fact that we have not even set foot in a Court of Law yet.

                      It's like a stigma which no one wants to talk about unless you are suddenly accused. Just like that young lad who committed suicide recently after being falsely accused of rape probably felt.

                      Let me tell you one thing, it's scary as hell.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Purgatory View Post
                        I think just like depression or mental illness in general, 'we' or people being accused of sexual offences are very much taboo despite the fact that we have not even set foot in a Court of Law yet.

                        It's like a stigma which no one wants to talk about unless you are suddenly accused. Just like that young lad who committed suicide recently after being falsely accused of rape probably felt.

                        Let me tell you one thing, it's scary as hell.
                        Yes that story about the young lad falsely accused is heartbreaking, here is some of the quotes from the story

                        He said: "I got the impression he was well liked and mature in some ways, but was a sensitive young man and vulnerable in some respects.

                        "He found it difficult to cope with the police investigation."

                        Olivia Murphy, head of sixth-form at Bitterne Park School, described Jay as a hard-working teenager who "embraced" his studies.

                        *Hampshire Police said no action has been taken against Jay's accuser.*

                        It is disgraceful to say the least no action against the False accuser.

                        It makes you think a life was lost because of Malicious false allegations and no action will be taken, noone in the government or anyone famous with authority batters an eye lid!!!!

                        What chance do we all have!!!!!

                        I agree with Amanda we need to get this huge issue in the public domain to bring change to legislation.

                        You question about being "out of the blue" yes my allegations were totally a shock I was actually at work at the time!
                        Turn the pain into power. ::

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