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    Constantanxiety - I have just signed up to this forum to reply to you as what happened to you is almost identical to what happened to me on Friday 17th May, and I've been out my mind with worry so much that I haven't even been able to search google for help.

    Let me tell you my story. I went out Friday the 17th, was in a pub in the smoking area with a couple of friends and there was a massive american contingent outside. I got chatting to one of the american girls, and after about 20 minutes of chatting she took me to the bar and bought us both 2 shots each (sambucca I think). I was already pretty battered at this stage, and these 2 shots hit me quite hard. My friends left me as she was buying the shots to go on to another bar, so it was just us 2 (and her american lot) and we sat in the smoking area chatting. She told me she was visiting for 11 days as a teacher/student at the college studying religion, where she was also staying. I live literally 2 minutes from the college, so when I finished my drink, I offered to go somewhere else or go back to mine. She was obviously really into me, so said back to mine. We walked back to my house hand in hand, whilst walking she would suddenly stop me in my tracks and stick her tongue down my throat. On the walk I mentioned that I would go down on her when we got back to mine, to which she replied 'I will go down on you too'.
    We got into mine and went straight into my room, which is immediately to the left when you enter the house on the ground floor. She undressed herself and I underdressed myself, then I started giving her oral sex from behind (to try and get myself 'up'). She was moaning and enjoying it. She then briefly gave me oral but I wasn't into it as I still wasn't hard, so I went down on her again. After a couple of minutes I started to get hard (but it was a semi at best), so I went inside her, thrust for a few seconds but realised I still wasn't really hard enough and really needed the toilet, so I pulled out then went upstairs to the toilet - passing my flatmate on the way as I had to walk through the living room to go to the toilet. After emptying my bladder, I walked back into my room and this girl suddenly had her jeans on and was putting her top on. I was confused, and asked what she was doing. 'I have to go. I have to go' she said. I asked why but she just kept saying 'I have to go...I'll see you tomorrow'. Confused, but seeing she clearly wanted to leave for some reason, I walked her to the door and directed her back to the college (end of the street, turn left and it's right infront of you). I went back to my room, got into bed, extremely drunk and had a phone call from a girl I'm sort of seeing but it's nothing too serious. Chatted with her then passed out.

    I woke up at 11.30am and looked around my room and noticed at the end of my bed was this girls knickers, handbag, a cardigan and a top. I was confused, she said 'see you tomorrow', was she planning on coming back? I was worried for her as she clearly needed her stuff, so I checked her bag for her mobile phone and none was in there, but her credit card which she paid for our drinks for was in there, so I knew she needed it. Knowing she was only staying round the corner at the college, I jumped out of bed, threw last nights trousers and shoes on and a t shirt, put all her stuff in a plastic bag and asked my flatmate where the college halls were, and also phoned a mate I was in the pub with and told him how she came back to mine, barely had sex due to my inability to get an erection due to being so drink,and that she left pretty quick and I've now woken to find her stuff and need to return it to her. I walked to the halls and went to the reception area, to which I spoke with a young girl working. I asked if some Americans were staying because I have one of their's stuff. She said she was an aware of an incident during the night but it was a different guy working the night shift. She had some notes scrawled down with this girls name written on it, so I knew she had been there. It turns out she wasn't staying at this particular college, and there was another college about 15 minutes walk away where she was actually staying. I didn't know this last night and obviously wouldn't have let her leave without a taxi if I realised she was staying at this other college. The guy who dealt with her who worked the night shift came in and we all chatted, and he phoned the other college and said an ambulance had been called, and there's police there. They are on their way over to get her stuff and ask me a few questions. I thought it odd that an ambulance had been called, but they said she had no money so I guessed it was because she had no other way of getting home. The police arrived and told the receptionists to leave the room, to which they then arrested me for rape... It was the worst moment of my life and the world went through my feet. I couldn't believe it, I feel sick typing this and anyone who knows me knows I would never do anything of this sort.

    I was taken to the station, and asked to speak to my dad. I gave him a tearful phonecall to explain my situation but couldn't give details, just saying 'You know me, you know I wouldn't do this'. I was then locked in a cell for nearly 3 hours until a doctor arrived to take blood samples and swab me over for DNA. I was then placed back in a cell for a further 2 and a half hours until my solicitor arrived. I told my solicitor what happened, to which she stated the allegations. This girl alleged that we did get along and kiss in the pub, that story matched up. However she says when we got to mine, we first had consentual doggy style sex, to which I tried to put it in her bum (and therefore accused of attempted anal rape). After this we then had missionary sex to which she was telling me to stop, to which she said I replied 'hold on I'm nearly finished', then ejaculated. THIS DIDN'T HAPPEN! First of all, I gave her oral sex from behind, not sex, as I wasn't even hard at this point. I licked both her vagina and anal areas, with my hands and fingers around these areas too, but not my penis! The missionary sex is true, however she said nothing about stopping or didn't act at any point like she didn't want it, and I certainly didn't ejaculate! I barely had an erection, let alone was I possible of ejaculating! I then had the police interview, which last 1 hour and 30 minutes, as I had a lot to say, and I was grilled intensely but gave a truthful account of what happened. Whilst I was at the station the police came round my house and took my bedding and the jumper I wore that night, and interviewed my flatmate who was in the living room the whole time she was round. All he told the police was that he could hear her moans of pleasure, that the walls are paper thin and if she did struggle/shout stop then he would have heard it.
    I was then finger-printed and had my mug shot taken, and then bailed for a month.

    My solicitor says most rape allegations which start with consentual sex rarely make it to court, however I have now been waiting a week now and have barely eaten, had horrible anxiety and just feeling the worst I ever have done my whole life with worry. I had to tell the girl I'm sort of seeing about what happened, as the police took my phone so she knew something was up as I hadn't messaged her in a day, plus she was part of my explanation to the police as I spoke to her on the phone after the american girl left so I thought the police may contact her. This was one of the hardest and horrible things I have had to do. Tell her I slept with someone else and that person is now accusing me of rape. She knows I didn't do it, as she knows me and that I would never do anything like that, but it was one of the most emotionally draining experiences of my life. The police still have my phone, they said they couldn't download it on Saturday and to phone back Sunday. I phoned back Sunday and was told they still hadn't downloaded it. Told the same thing Monday too. I went back Wednesday and I was then told they are now keeping my phone until a decision has been made. I need support from family and friends more than ever and not having a phone is extremely difficult. I don't understand how they said I will be getting it back once it's been downloaded, and have now changed their tune to say they are keeping it?!

    Anyway I am now in limbo waiting to see what happens. I believe this girl returned to America this weekend, I'm not sure what bearing this would have had on anything. If you could please let me know how your case goes constantanxiety, as I am going through exactly the same thing as you.

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    funnyfox
    as everyone here has already said please write down everything you can remember just in case. with this girl away back to the usa she would obviously need to return back to the uk to stand trial if anything was to happen. by the sounds of it she was maybe using this as an excuse when she arrived back to her friends with none if her stuff.
    take care.

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    • #3
      Hi Funnyfox,

      I've moved your post into it's own thread so that the advice offered to you and to Constantanxiety will be kept separate.

      .....though please continue to offer support to him on his thread (and vice versa!)
      Last edited by Casehardened; 27 May 2013, 09:33 PM. Reason: Tidying up grammar!
      'What doesn't kill you makes you stronger'

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      • #4
        Hi funnyfox and welcome to the forum - sorry you have to be here though. You will get loads of advice - practical emotional and legal on here so keep posting and keep asking for help. As well as writing everything down, make sure you get yourself a solicitor who is a SPECIALIST is defending false rape allegations...

        Keep strong .....
        "Only love can light the mirror of your soul" - Chris de Burgh

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        • #5
          Thank you for your kind words guys. This really is undoubtedly the most difficult time of my life and I can't bear to think what will happen to my mental state if this goes to court.

          Constantanxiety - After reading your message I decided to write the most detailed account as possible. The more I read the details and speak to my parents and friends about it the more confident I feel it will be fine. However sometimes when I think about it too much I start to think the worst and it spirals into feeling horrendous and sick and upset and this is how I have felt today. I have put off writing up my account until now because I don't like to keep thinking of what I'm going through, but I need to stay strong and keep my head held, I know I'm innocent.

          Constant, please keep us up to date with how yours goes, I was only given a bail of 4 weeks, which is half of yours so not sure what to read into that. Also how did your complainants account of consentual then non-consentual sex happen? I find that a really hard story, which we both have, that a girl can say they were having sex quite happily, and then change their mind (and not do or say anything).

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          • #6
            Blooming hell, that's a graphic post!

            You seem to be in the dark over the situation but at least on the ground running in so far as you've completed the interview process without charge, your flatmate is giving credible evidence on your behalf and it appears that your version of events are quite believable.

            It's not for us to judge you but what you need to remember is that a jury will be sitting judging you should this make it into a courtroom. Your graphically detailed version of events rings true in my mind but I'd still be left questioning why the allegation exists. Could she have a boyfriend and be feeling guilty? Could she maybe have thought that you'd robbed her even though it was her that'd left her bag etc? This would all need to be considered and conclusions sought.

            There are various things here that take some thinking and considering. One thing I would encourage you not to ever do again is pick up strangers in bars.


            As for just now. Welcome to the falsely accused club... You're still a free man! Over time the brutality of the situation will subside and you'll begin to relax a little. I can only hope that things are brought to a conclusion reasonably quickly for you but fear that you'll end up like the rest of us, left in limbo and guessing where the story goes next. We're all here to help you and simply being here should be a help in itself. Being greeted with such a new experience that hits right into your soul isn't easy but with time and knowledge you'll be prepared for any battles that may arise in the future. I also hope that you will now do a little soul searching and take this all as a little bit of an indication that getting yourself into compromising situations is a dangerous game these days and best avoided, especially where alcohol is involved.
            Wow... A signature option!

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