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    Hello all , I've been pouring over this site
    The last few days reading every bit of infomation
    I can from the posts here. God bless you people!!

    Anyway I don't want to go into too much detail
    But here is a brief insite into my story

    About 2 months ago I was called by an ex who after
    Some chit chat, told me that when we last
    Slept together it "wasn't consentual" and I forced
    Myself on her!! Totally gobsmacked I was, I got her
    To say it again (she wouldn't use the word rape)
    2 hours later she again called me but I went off and told her where to go.
    Then she txt me saying "sorry I won't mention it again"

    Forward 2 weeks and I got a phone call from the police asking me to come in for a chat!!! As there had been serious allegations made against me. So I printed off a copy of all calls she made to me and the "sorry" txt and went to a solicitors before the "chat" (no legal aid available) saw the solicitor and showed him the call log and txt and said can you come with me to the station to clear all this up.

    He said "look that was a pretext call there is no point me coming in with you I can't say a word it's not like the uk here you will be giving me $1400 for nothing, but whatever you do don't take that evidence in with you leave it here don't even mention it, you will be charged with rape no matter what you say"

    So I didn't follow his advice & went in there with my evidence expecting to be out in an hour or so because it's obvious she is lying.

    How wrong could I be the police were not interested in what I had to say and as soon as I pulled out my call/txt printouts they were confiscated as evidence. I was charged with rape sexual assault and a couple of minor offences (of which I am guilty)

    I spent a week locked up and only got bail by the skin of my teeth. As soon as I got out my barrister went off on me for taking in my "evidence" as the accuser can now change her story to fit. (feel really dumb about that)

    It's been hard but I know it was consensual and won't take this lying down!!!

    (excuse the typing, using my iPhone)

    Lampy
    Last edited by Lampy; 26 April 2012, 09:58 AM.

  • #2
    can I be nosy and ask what offences you are guilty of?
    And God promised men that good and obedient wives would be found in all corners of the world. Then made the world round .... and laughed and laughed and laughed ..

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    • #3
      Breach of an intervention order, and I'll be pleading guilty.

      Im in Australia so whilst the laws are nearly the same as the uk they do differ.

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      • #4
        So sorry to hear of your story although a strange approach from the accuser to come to you to say that you had forced yourself on her.
        Obviously, as it didn't happen, you would both know that wasn't true.
        She wasn't recording you and trying to catch you out was she?

        It's a shame you handed your evidence over but you were naive, like we all are when we don't know how the police really operate. Your solicitor is right of course, the police will probably confront the accuser with this evidence and give her a chance to tweak her story.

        Ensure you have a specialist solicitor on board; one experienced in dealing with rape cases.

        I wonder if there are any similar helpful organisations or sites aimed at those in Australia. I worry that the advice you get here may be limited as we don't know anything about Australian laws.

        Take care
        "Be sure your sin will find you out"

        Numbers 32:23

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        • #5
          The call itself was a pretext call made & recorded at the police station all totally legal here in Aus & admissible in court.

          My solicitor is still waiting for her statement from the police along with a copy of the call itself, but I know that during the conversation I repeatedly told my accuser "you need to go to the police if you think you have been raped" Not knowing she was already there!!

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          • #6
            This is a group for those falsely accused of child sex abuse in Australia but they may well know of a more suitable group for you in your situation

            http://www.falseaccusationsofchildse...seqldaust.com/
            People Appealing Convictions of Sexual Offences ~http://www.pacso.co.uk

            PAFAA details ~ https://pacso.co.uk/pafaa-people-aga...ions-of-abuse/

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            • #7
              He said "look that was a pretext call there is no point me coming in with you I can't say a word it's not like the uk here you will be giving me $1400 for nothing, but whatever you do don't take that evidence in with you leave it here don't even mention it, you will be charged with rape no matter what you say"

              So I didn't follow his advice & went in there with my evidence expecting to be out in an hour or so because it's obvious she is lying.
              Here was a solicitor trying to save you money - that should have given you a clue that he was being honest with you......

              How many people have come on here expecting the police to play fair, handed over the helpful evidence only for it to be ignored or it's suddenly disappear into thin air....
              People Appealing Convictions of Sexual Offences ~http://www.pacso.co.uk

              PAFAA details ~ https://pacso.co.uk/pafaa-people-aga...ions-of-abuse/

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              • #8
                I was just totally convinced that by telling the police my side of the story and by producing a txt from her after the pre text call saying "sorry won't mention it again" The police would of atleast gone back to her to get her to go over her side of events again and explaine why she txt and called me later on saying "sorry".

                I'm back to the magistrates court for a "mentioning" to see if the magistrate thinks there is enuff evidence from the prosecution to proceed but my solicitor has told me 99% the magistrate will put it forward to trial but it gives an opportunity for my barrister to ask my accuser questions to "lock in her statement" as it where, apparently her statement under "oath" is something she can't change rather than statements given to the police which can be changed as often as the police see fit.

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                • #9
                  It's a naivety that is common in most people that have never had to deal with the police before. Don't beat yourself up over it, what's done is done.

                  Lessons are often learned in the hard way. 95% of people here will likely say the same thing...that they assumed the police would play fair and investigate properly. It's a big shock to the system when it turns out not to be the case.
                  "Be sure your sin will find you out"

                  Numbers 32:23

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                  • #10
                    Had a chat with my solicitor on Friday, and she told me that I have been approved for legal aid, just need to sign a stat dec.

                    She also told me that she has had to go to the magistrate to get the police to hand over my ex's statement and a transcript of the pretext call made from the police station. But I've told her that we need an actual copy of the call itself and not just what gets transcribed for a couple of reasons.

                    1. I have a strong northern accent & doubt an Australian would understand what I exactly said when I was shouting at my ex on the phone (after she accused me of rape).
                    2. I just really don't trust the police, I'm sorry to say it but I honestly do think they just want a conviction if a crime has been committed or not.

                    There is something I would really like to tell you all but until we get her statement I have to keep it to myself I know the chances of my ex or the Aus police reading this is slim but I just can't take that chance.

                    Keep up the good work ppl this forum really has been a tower of strength to me.

                    Lampy

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                    • #11
                      It's not all that unlikely that people who know you will read the forum so take care with anything you say.

                      Avoid identifying yourself in any way
                      "Be sure your sin will find you out"

                      Numbers 32:23

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                      • #12
                        Well my solicitor called me today for a chat as the police (2 weeks late) have handed over my ex's statement along with a transcript of the phone call she made from the police station to try and entrapp me. My solicitor confirmed that I repeatedly my accuser in the phone call "you need to go to the police if you think I have forced myself on you" also I apparently told her (can't remember saying it tbh) "you are a f**king disgrace to women to accuse someone of that" but like I also told my solicitor half of the transcript is "unable to transcribe" due to my accent no doubt, but she also says there must be parts missing as in parts of the conversation my accuser will say something to me & my reply is totally unrelated to what was said!!

                        So she has requested an actual cd copy of the call itself as we don't think it's been transcribed correctly, also written words can't convey emotions such as: Surprise, disgust, anger, hurt etc etc…

                        Got a meeting next week to go through my ex's statement & the incomplete/inaccurate copy of the pretext call.

                        Lampy

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                        • #13
                          Well, at least it sounds as though your solicitor is on the ball.
                          Hang in there.

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                          • #14
                            I've done something stupid, its my ex wife she called me earlier sobbing saying she can't cope with the kids anymore. My sons ashbergers is worse than ever & my 16 year old daughter has had an abortion. We met up for coffee I was really worried about her. I've breached my bail conditions big time, what do i do now?

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                            • #15
                              Tell your solicitor who will no doubt advise you to admit it to the police. We will not advise you of any ways of covering it up here...the sooner you come clean, the more lenient they may be with you
                              "Be sure your sin will find you out"

                              Numbers 32:23

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