i may be naive but how exactly do cases get convictions without evidence?

[Rights Fighter]

Remember the Law is only as good as the integrity of those entrusted to administer it


Recent true quote by a prominent Judge....' Even though there is no evidence to prove you did it, I believe you did it'

British Justice in a nutshell.

That was said at sentence so cannot be used for appeal. Shame he didn't make that comment before the jury went out.

[Denise]

I believe the police take all the statements to CPS and I think they give their own opinion then CPS decide
Although, during statement stage we were told that arresting officer would need to take everything to her superior who could decide not to give it to CPS but I've never read that on here xx

[mouse]

Quotes

Remember the Law is only as good as the integrity of those entrusted to administer it


Recent true quote by a prominent Judge....' Even though there is no evidence to prove you did it, I believe you did it'

British Justice in a nutshell.

[Bigsister]

Well my solicitor was very good. At the beginning when I was really going frantic I'd text him at strange hours and he would get back to me to help my well being.

Every so often I would nag him that I need to go to the police to tell them more but he would always advise me not to.

Just hope that I win my misdemeanor case which again I am innocent of.

Who does make the final decision, the police officer or the CPS? In reality would the arresting officer say to the CPS I don't think he's guilty? How does it work behind the scenes?

Not 100% sure, but I thought it was CPS that made the final say so. With info from ol bill of course...

[mouse]

Reference postscript.

My comment referred to a certain person in high office who seems to be waging his own personal vendetta against anyone accused of sex offence, from experience and statistics.

[RFLH]

always expect the unexpected!!

[JamieG]

Whilst the cat is away the mice will place.
The mice can have the place. I want a nicer place.

And when I said this I really didn't expect to get a reply from a real mouse.

[JamieG]

R U Reading this Deveaux?

Don't want to sound stupid but what does this mean?

[JamieG]

Well my solicitor was very good. At the beginning when I was really going frantic I'd text him at strange hours and he would get back to me to help my well being.

Every so often I would nag him that I need to go to the police to tell them more but he would always advise me not to.

Just hope that I win my misdemeanor case which again I am innocent of.

Who does make the final decision, the police officer or the CPS? In reality would the arresting officer say to the CPS I don't think he's guilty? How does it work behind the scenes?

[Bigsister]

Yep, everyday jo bloggs wouldn't think twice about handing evidence to the police thinking it'll convince them they are innocent. Wasn't until I came on here that I saw how wrong that is. Good advice.

[mouse]

Conviction without evidence

Hi Jamie, sounds like you had a very lucky escape, must have got one of the good cops or one that hasn't yet been corrupted by the greed of promotion. There are still a lot out there, but they are scared to shop the bent ones who are normally in more senior positions.
Because rape convictions appeared to be low, no evidence to support that rapists were getting away with it except lots of noise from the Women's Rights sectors which hold great sway in Government circles, the Government decided that in sex -offence cases there was no need for corroborative evidence and therefore the word of the alleged victim was sufficient and Judge did not have to warn Jury.
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING FOR ANYONE READING THIS IS TO REMEMBER....
DO NOT CHAT/TALK/GIVE INTERVIEW TO POLICE WITHOUT A SOLICITOR PRESENT,no matter how innocent you are. Preferably your own if not the Duty solicitor. It's in this first interview that police suspects condemn themselves by giving police information unwittingly that can be manipulated, used out of context etc. If new evidence comes to light or you remember things after this interview..DO NOT TELL THE POLICE, tell your solicitor, make sure you have one that deals with your issues. My qualifications, experience and 12 years of dealing with police corruption and harassment.
Police are not the only ones, you also have solicitors and barristers who don't/can't do the job, they get paid anyway. There are also bent Judges who have their own agenda's or side with police regardless. Need to know anymore Jamie? R U Reading this Deveaux?

[JamieG]

No, I have no interest. I am using this whole thing to force me to have a new start and have a life I enjoy.

All this started when I was away, Whilst the cat is away the mice will play.

The mice can have the place. I want a nicer place.

[Rights Fighter]

If they were real friends they would still be here for you. Have you tried to make contact with any of them?

[JamieG]

It's a hard one to crack, I went through all the emotions, what if I do go to prison for something I haven't done. It really drove me down and I did a lot of mental preparation for the worst event.

Now I even found it hard to go to the local shop. I don't want to be here anymore as in my mind I have said good bye to everyone from my home town and have no interest in returning. I want a new life.

2 years ago, before I met this woman I had lots of friends.

[Bigsister]

I think you're right about hoping for the best bit. Of course people need to stay positive.
It must be so darn hard though, as you know yourself. I can't even imagine what something like this does to a person. It just seems to get me mad the more I hear about it to be honest.