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    Hello

    I am a writer at Fabulous Magazine-the UK's biggest weekly glossy magazine with almost six million readers.

    I am writing a report on women who falsely cry rape and am looking for men who would be interested in talking about their experience of being falsely accused. This is a serious, sensitive report which will be wholly sympathetic towards the men who find themselves in this terrible situation.

    I am particularly interested in speaking with a man and his wife/girlfriend who were together when he was accused and have stayed together. However I am also interested in hearing from single men as well.

    If you would like to find out more please email me at eimear.o'hagan@fabulousmag.co.uk and I can give you some more details.

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    For those who don't know, Fabulous magasine is the Sunday magasine of the News of the World.

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    All the more reason for the falsely accused to avoid it like the plague!!!

    A couple of years back NoW listed several alleged "paedophiles" by name and areas pinpointed on a map of the UK where they came from, some still in prison protesting their innocence. Some I know are innocent because I have read their pre-trial and trial paperwork and saw what the jury did not.

    As we know some barristers strike deals behind the defendnat's back with "we won't use this evidence if you don't use that". It happens all the time. Scary.

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    Dear Rights Fighter

    In response to your posting I just want to clarify a few points.

    -Fabulous Magazine is a completely separate publication to the NOTW with a distinct editorial policy and readership.

    -I am confused as to why you would, it seems, compare men falsely accused of rape, with paedophiles. I would think that would be a very hurtful comparision to many users of this forum.

    -In 2000, the NOTW published the names and whereabouts of convicted, not alleged, paedophiles. Regardless, I don't understand how this has any bearing on me wanting to talk to men who have been falsely accused and acquitted of rape.

    If any users of this forum, who were falsely accused and acquitted, are interested in speaking with me about this terrible experience they have gone through please contact me.

    Thanks

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    men who have been acquitted are not necessarily innocent. are you aware that if you print a story of an acquitted man the victim could well read it. on the other hand if you are writing a story on a man who has succesfully proved his accuser was lying by having her convicted then this is extremely different. by printing that his accuser was lying when she has not been found guilty you are printing an article that could be extremely distressing for the huge numbers of real victims who do not see their attackers found guilty.

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    Men who have been aqcquitted are not necessarily innocent, and men who have been convicted are not necessarily guilty. But that's a whole different can of worms!

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    Thanks Saffron, you're the very first person I've known to acknowledge that (not everyone convicted is guilty).

    As someone who's been tarred as one of those P's (I hate the word) and isn't one, I found that Eimeer woman absolutely insidious and the thinly-veiled hatred seeps from her words. It's as if it's inconceivable to her that anyone could be wrongly convicted of a child offence, yet it's actually far easier to achieve a conviction, as even the hardest jury is a sucker for child ""victims.""

    "Fabulous", shame on you. If Tesco runs out of Andrex, I know an alternative now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LifeSucks View Post
    Thanks Saffron, you're the very first person I've known to acknowledge that (not everyone convicted is guilty).
    LifeSucks

    If you look further up the thread you will see that I have posted:


    All the more reason for the falsely accused to avoid it like the plague!!!

    A couple of years back NoW listed several alleged "paedophiles" by name and areas pinpointed on a map of the UK where they came from, some still in prison protesting their innocence. Some I know are innocent because I have read their pre-trial and trial paperwork and saw what the jury did not.

    As we know some barristers strike deals behind the defendnat's back with "we won't use this evidence if you don't use that". It happens all the time. Scary.

    If you read through other threads you will see the same applies throughout.

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    Sorry RF, I know you did and I see that now, but Saffron's said it so clearly in terms which even a NoTW reporter couldn't misinterpret. Also, the creepy woman totally ignored your comments because afterwards she tried to protest her argument that someone convicted of paedophilia can't possibly be innocent and therefore shouldn't be tied in with people here.


    "I am confused as to why I would, it seem, compare someone working for any magazine or issue of the News of The World, to be associated in any way with the words decent, honest or worthy of receiving oxygen. I would think that would be a very hurtful comparision to many decent, honest people in the rest of the oxygen-breathing world."

    I think I should use her paraphrased words as my sig.
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    As this is the only forum and post that is relevant, a little nugget came to light this week which I feel the Honurable Lady should note: Saturday 22nd January her sister paper printed a photo of Gossip Girl Taylor Momsen, aged 16, in a compromising shot. Clearly a breach of Sect1 of the Protection of Children Act 1978. Suggest she only has to look over her desk for any undesirables.

    I shall leave it at that. It's not a hate campaign, but just proving a point.
    There are good journalists out there, who we do need to see.
    Flying gets me away from the stench of this corrupt country. The day sh*t learns to fly too, then I'm really in trouble.

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    Hi,

    Encouraged by LS's words below, I'm going to be brave, post a message here, and hope I get a more positive response than Eimeer did ...

    I work for BBC Radio One's Newsbeat programme. I am their politics reporter.

    I want to put together a radio feature about the pros and cons of the new government's apparent plans to bring in anonymity for rape defendants until they're convicted.

    Please email me at dave.howard.01@bbc.co.uk with your details if you're interested in finding out more.

    Time is of the essence, as I want to broadcast this piece, to coincide with a big government debate about all this on Thursday 8th July.

    I'm particularly interested in hearing from people with experience of dealing with these issues - who fit within Radio One's target age demographic (under about 35).

    Best wishes,

    Dave Howard
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    LS said:There are good journalists out there, who we do need to see.[/QUOTE]

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    Hi Dave

    I have to pass on this one, because I'm not in the age demigraphic, plus I've been Falsely Convicted but of something different, so it kind of rules me out of the criteria. What you need are those who have been accused and then the matter dropped (NFA'd) and there are many here who have been, and I would encourage them to contact you.

    Newsbeat I've listened to since I was a kid, so I can vouch for its integrity.
    (Sunday Rags are not known for being honest, so Eimeer was never going to get the time of the day from people who suffer as a result of others telling lies.)

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    Hi Dave

    I don't think that I am what you are looking for....I don't fit the age demographic (although I did at the time!) and it was my husband who was falsely accused, tried and convicted, which again is not what you are looking for. I am guessing you need someone who has been falsely accused and then either NFA'd or acquitted at trial.

    There are plenty of others on this site who have been accused only to have the matter dropped, or to be acquitted and I would urge them to contact you.

    Macdougal, Whateverdidido, Campaign R, Casehardened, Viva - I am talking to you!!

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    RFLH has posted up your request on the private forum too - you might get some joy there and she will keep you posted no doubt - or somebody from there will contact your direct using your email address.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saffron View Post

    Macdougal, Whateverdidido, Campaign R, Casehardened, Viva - I am talking to you!!

    Saffron
    Sadly, though all else fits, I am a bit (ok lots) outside the age bracket!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbcradioonedavehoward View Post
    Hi,

    Encouraged by LS's words below, I'm going to be brave, post a message here, and hope I get a more positive response than Eimeer did ...

    I work for BBC Radio One's Newsbeat programme. I am their politics reporter.

    I want to put together a radio feature about the pros and cons of the new government's apparent plans to bring in anonymity for rape defendants until they're convicted.

    Please email me at dave.howard.01@bbc.co.uk with your details if you're interested in finding out more.

    Time is of the essence, as I want to broadcast this piece, to coincide with a big government debate about all this on Thursday 8th July.

    I'm particularly interested in hearing from people with experience of dealing with these issues - who fit within Radio One's target age demographic (under about 35).

    Best wishes,

    Dave Howard
    BBC Radio One Newsbeat and 1Xtra News



    LS said:There are good journalists out there, who we do need to see.[/QUOTE]
    hi bbcradioonedavehoward could i ask you when you plan on broadcasting this on radio one? will it be in the morning-midday-evening ? as i would like to listen to it.

    cheers

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    Needhelp, Newsbeat is broadcast on Radio One at 12.45pm and 5.45pm each weekday.
    Dave has said he plans to broadcast this on next Thursday (8th July) so just tune in to Radio 1 at those times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LS View Post
    Thanks Saffron, you're the very first person I've known to acknowledge that (not everyone convicted is guilty).

    As someone who's been tarred as one of those P's (I hate the word) and isn't one, I found that Eimeer woman absolutely insidious and the thinly-veiled hatred seeps from her words. It's as if it's inconceivable to her that anyone could be wrongly convicted of a child offence, yet it's actually far easier to achieve a conviction, as even the hardest jury is a sucker for child ""victims.""

    "Fabulous", shame on you. If Tesco runs out of Andrex, I know an alternative now.
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    Well said you. This is my first posting on this site, I am in a relationship (engaged) to a man who was falsely accused by a 15 year old girl, her work against his. He did 3 years and is on licence for two more years yet. I have been with him 2 years and we recently heard that since she accused him she has accussed two more men since then.

    She is making a bit of a career out of it. I hope she gets caught out for the lying little ***** she clearly is. The accusationa and sentence has all but ruined the life and career of my fiance.

    As to the NOTW, per-leeeze! I dare not imagine how easily quotes can be bent, put out of context and so on. A laudable idea on the surface, the issue of false accusations need as much publicity as it can get. I would have thought an article on WHY women do this would be a good starting point.

    Greetings to all on this group,
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    Hi Cloudberry
    Thank you for your kind words, and also welcome to the site although sorry that it is as a victim of the current day witch-hunt.

    There are a number of reasons that people make false accusations against others, but the two main reasons I can come up with are money and revenge.
    I believe at the moment "victims" get an award of around £16,000 from the compensation agency, which is an awfully large incentive to spout some lies and become moderately rich in the process. It isn't as if they really need any form of proof to back up the lies, these days.

    Revenge is the other motivation. I personally was the victim of a so-called "friend" who has used every opportunity to stab me in the back over the last 20 years, ranging from accusing me of theft, damaging my property, burgling me, harassment and all the while smiling to my face. I don't know why he has done this, as I've never done anything to him, and it is hardly jealousy because I've always been worse off than him. However, none of this stopped him using his teenage daughter as the mouthpiece to give credibility to a false allegation, and the law as it stands does not understand, comprehend or accept that a minor is directly under the control and coercion of an adult for their own purposes including making a false declaration in order to obtain a score and £16,000.

    The toilet paper sunday rag is not interested in truth. I saw that for myself at the end of 2006, when a famous celebrity accused of this type of crime was released from prison and a tv program was made over about how he coped with the week after being released from prison. He was interviewed in a public park, with and by a tv camera crew, who scanned the park to show that there was no other member of the public around other than themselves and the celebrity.
    Yet, lo and behold, in that week's notw there was a picture of the celeb in that park with a child photoshopped into shot, with the headline pervert in the park. This gave the impression that there was a pervert in a park, hanging around children. Oddly it failed to show the tv camera crew.
    The vast numbers of ignorant people who would have read that article would have taken it for real, had they not seen the tv programme for themselves.

    Now I have just spent the last two days battling people on the bbc's Have Your Say website, where this silly law has come in allowing parents to check on people. The majority would quite happily advocate violence as a result of this inflammatory newspaper, rather than actually think for themselves and even when I've told them what has happened to me they do not believe that in this day and age you can be wrongfully convicted, but that you must really genuinely guilty.
    You have to let people find that out for themselves when it happens to them.

    The saddest part is that because there are liars out there who will make false accusations up, it means that people who genuinely are raped are disbelieved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cloudberry27 View Post
    Well said you. This is my first posting on this site, I am in a relationship (engaged) to a man who was falsely accused by a 15 year old girl, her work against his. He did 3 years and is on licence for two more years yet. I have been with him 2 years and we recently heard that since she accused him she has accussed two more men since then.

    She is making a bit of a career out of it.
    I hope she gets caught out for the lying little ***** she clearly is. The accusationa and sentence has all but ruined the life and career of my fiance.

    As to the NOTW, per-leeeze! I dare not imagine how easily quotes can be bent, put out of context and so on. A laudable idea on the surface, the issue of false accusations need as much publicity as it can get. I would have thought an article on WHY women do this would be a good starting point.

    Greetings to all on this group,
    Cloudberry

    Cloudberry, If this is true and the allegations were made to the police then this could help with an appeal against conviction. You must try to find out as much detail as possible and find a decent solicitor who specialises in appealing this type of conviction.

    If you want help with this please send a private message to LS with your email address on it and he will forward it to me in complete confidence.

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    We need to be mindful that the ignorant newspaper and its journalists are not representative of the majority of journalists.

    There are a great many journalists out there for whom printing the truth is of far more value to them than just printing lies.
    We are starting to attract the honourable ones; people like Dave Howard from Radio 1s Newsbeat, and AMVC. These are people who came here looking to research and ask questions so that they can ensure that what comes out is honest.
    These are the journalists we need, and I am heartened that they are starting to show an interest in what is happening around "us."
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    Which reminds me I forgot to ring David Howard as I've had a new case delivered which I am currently going through......must remember to ring him.....

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