Question regarding bail

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I struggle to hug my grandkids now, for fear someone will misintepret it.
Sad, sad times

I have a niece, I've always hated taking her to the toilet while out and about, just in case it gets mis interpreted. even when I do take her to the toilet, I try to leave the cubicle door slightly ajar.

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Sorry, I seem to have gone off-topic! OOPS!

I actually found both posts very interesting, it does seem that there is a lack of information for alot of lawyer companies, but then again, it's not really something you'd find a review about.

my current company has a lawyer who defended some plane hijackers at that airport they use for that sort of thing ... no good for my case ... but interesting to read lol.

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And some solicitors will write a lot of nonsense about how fabulously brilliant they are. I tend to ignore those.

I very recently received a copy and paste from a sols website, from a guy who used them. My thoughts on what I read are these:


1: it was badly written (it seems to have been written by somebody on here very recently, who claimed to be a very satisfied customer)

2: one of the "staff" is said to be a "consultant paralegal" - there is no such animal.

3: another member of staff appears to be able to do absolutely everything required of him (no mention of qualifications) and is so fabulous no doubt he could stick a broom up his ar*e and sweep the floor as he goes about his daily business of saving the world.

4: the list of "notable cases" are in fact copies and pastes of the first four in the list, until it looks as though there are 20 or 30, but in fact are the same cases just repeated.


I feel extremely sorry for people who have been taken in by them and paid a lot of money for very little work done, if any. It is REALLY important to check out other people's experiences of legal reps, rather than be swayed by what might appear to be a "profession" self-praising website.

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what on earth is 'Chambers & partners and legal 500'???

does 'legal aid firm of the year' award actually mean anything? bestowed by this city's (as in the city i live now) law society.

sorry just reading your last post has made me check things out.

[Rights Fighter]

From what I've been told it's more related to firms paying to be included on a list of some sort, although I don't know how true that is.

When I recommend solicitors or barristers to anybody, I do so from either my or other people's experience of them. I think that is the best way to go.

Some people will recommend a solicitors practice which is not always the best thing. It is the individual solicitor from the practice (and an individual barrister from certain Chambers) that is more important. Some firms have fab solicitors and unfortunately they sometimes have solicitors who can't be bothered to do the job properly; and that gives the firm a bad name unfortunately.

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Yes, i've read that on here before, before I found this specialist who come's highly recommended, I was going to contact the sol you recommended in the london area who also deals with the south east, that was in part why I asked the original question.

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so many questions I want to ask lol. amazing how many questions you ask yourself when you read up about your current sol. not the company, just the person.

'[2005], a House of Lords case, which determined that there are no circumstances when a Judge can ever order a Jury to return a verdict of Guilty.'

hasn't that always been the case?

[Rights Fighter]

That is true. What some people get confused over is when the judge gives a similar fact direction, or collusion direction, whereby he might direct the jury that if they come to a finding of guilt on one Count on the indictment, they can (if they wish) go on to consider that in when coming to verdicts in relation to other Counts.

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sorry, I should have added that that was a copy and paste from part of a lawyers bio.

I done a 'google' search on the one's i have dealt with, 4 in total since this began, linkedin comes up quite a lot, i am currently dealing with a trainee sol, she deals with most of my queries and is my main point of contact.

Not sure what to make of a trainee sol being my main point of contact lol

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That is true. What some people get confused over is when the judge gives a similar fact direction, or collusion direction, whereby he might direct the jury that if they come to a finding of guilt on one Count on the indictment, they can (if they wish) go on to consider that in when coming to verdicts in relation to other Counts.

so potentially, in any given case where there are multiple charges. a jury could find a defendant guilty of one crime, and what ever else they are charged with, despite a lack of or dubious evidence? because the defendant was found guilty on one count already?

[Rights Fighter]

The judge can direct them that they can take that into consideration

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well ... glad im not facing multiple! at the moment i'm facing none and that suits me just fine.

how can that be allowed? I mean I get that there are circumstances when the other charges are proberly true, but surely it should just be about the evidence on offer for each individual charge?

Sorry i know this is far and away off topic, i just find it interesting. i enjoy learning new things, it's a shame i've had to go through something like this to learn it though.

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and what is a house of lords case? is that where someone has taken the house of lords to court, or just put a petition in?.

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I know it's been a while since I posted on here.

I havn't checked my emails since bank holiday, when i eventually did open them i had an email from the OIC asking me to contact her, I also switched on the phone that is purely for the police to call me on, and had a voicemail from her too, go figure the first time i let it run flat for a day or so and i get a call.

Anyway, Last friday I received a letter informing me that i could collect my phone as it was no longer needed. I spoke to my lawyer and she spoke to the OIC last friday. at 17:45 last Friday I was informed by my lawyer that it's good news and I've goT NFA.

Just waiting for the paperwork now.

thanks everyone for your support during this time.

[Rights Fighter]

That's good news! Another NFA! Was this legal aid too?

Back in the day, if an appeal against conviction failed then sometimes an application would be made to the House of Lords. These days it would go to the Supreme Court, who generally don't even allow an application to be considered. I know that as I emailed them to ask about appealing there, to be told that the Registrar would not consider it. And that was before I had even made any arguments......